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Hey everybody, welcome to There Is No God and We're All Gonna Die. And tonight I wanna talk about how I am damn proud that I have Trump Derangement Syndrome. So we're gonna get into it. And yeah, I do. I have it. Let's talk about it and let's start the show. Here we go.
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It doesn't mean that I don't like people who aren't gay. I have many straight friends. Some of my best friends are straight. doesn't mean I don't have conservative friends. I live in Tennessee. I have a fuck fucking truckload full of friggin' conservative friends. And a lot of them are great people. We just happen to disagree on politics, and a lot of them actually lately are starting to turn on.
Donald Trump. And so we're gonna talk about Donald Trump derangement syndrome in a second and how I'm actually very proud to have Trump derangement syndrome. I friggin' wear it as a badge of honor. We're gonna get into that. And then I'm gonna listen to some voice messages that I got this week. and yeah, the atheist thing, that's just another label. I happen to not believe that there's a God, and I don't believe that there's heaven. I believe when I die it's lights out, it's kind of a bummer. my beliefs
aren't feel-good beliefs, but they just happen to be things that I believe. Not everything that is true in the world is supposed to feel good. You know, death. People die. people struggle with money and romance and, you know, feeling like they don't fit in. the world is full of examples of things, you know, like weather disasters and people dying, you know, from all sorts of diseases and, you know, crazy accidents and stuff.
The world isn't here to just make us feel good all the time. And so that also includes things we may believe about the world. I mean, yeah, I don't believe there's a God. I don't believe that when we die, I we go anywhere. And it sucks. I kind of wish I did believe that because it seems like it would be a really cool thing to believe. And I as I've said pretty much on every episode, if I'm wrong.
And I get to go to some magical place when we die and fly around with some dude who looks like Barry Gibb and you know he's wearing a robe and everything, and I get to see all these people that I used to know. Sign me up for that because it sounds pretty awesome. So who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But anyways, I want to talk about Trump derangement syndrome, and then I want to listen to some voice messages. So yeah.
I have this habit of commenting on politics quite a bit on Facebook. It's not something I'm proud of because I know I'm never gonna change anybody's opinions. you know, for instance, Donald Trump will do something completely ridiculous or horrible or whatever, and then I will, you know, respond to it saying that's fucking ridiculous. And then, of course, what do people say right away?
we found another person with Trump derangement syndrome.
I'm just gonna like break down for a second. Like so when somebody does something clearly wrong and I point it out and then you say that I'm deranged, it's kind of like you coming up and hitting me in the face, and then me complaining about it, and then you saying, I'm the one with a problem because I'm the one who had a problem with you hitting me in the face. Not the fact that you hit me in the face, but I'm deranged because I had a problem with you hitting me in the face. You see
That's that's there's a term for that. It's called gaslighting, where you make the person who hasn't done anything wrong and they're just noticing that there's fucked up shit going on and and then you you're like, Well, but you're the person with the problem because you're noticing that there's fucked up shit. So you're deranged. It's like, no, I'm not deranged. But anyways, I've just come to the point that yeah, if if if if I'm deranged because I'm noticing all this stuff.
And I'm gonna list off the stuff right now. Okay. And I have a list right here. I printed it out, you guys. If these things I'm I'm reading off a piece of paper right now. If these things don't make you at least feel a little bit deranged, I'm honestly worried about you. Thing number one, mocking a disabled reporter. Thing number two, grabbing by the pussy. People with daughters and granddaughters and nieces and
young women that they know had no problem voting for him after he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and obviously you know he had it seems like he had some experience doing something along those lines because then three multiple sexual a assault allegations and calling women pigs and dogs and slobs. Four, I alone can fix it. Only he can fix things. Nobody else. Five
Calling the press the enemy of the people. I knew that when he started doing that in 2015, what was the first thing he did? He told all his supporters not to trust the press. Fake news, fake news, fake news. And I was like, okay, this is calculated. Because if you can get people to not believe anything except you, well, then you're controlling the narrative. So the first thing he did was no matter what reporters say, they're lying.
They're lying, they're lying. Fake news, fake news, fake news. And that's when we started hearing that hashtag fake news. All the 2015 is when it started. It was the first thing he did. Attacking judges he doesn't like when he doesn't like their rulings. seven, attacking jurors, prosecutors, families, and people involved in cases against him. Eight, calling the 2020 election stolen, despite the fact that he lost it. And he did lose it.
We know now so many investigations have happened at this point showing clearly that he lost. And he still, to this day, is claiming that he somehow did not lose it. eight, trying to pressure Georgia officials to find enough votes to change the results. Can you imagine if Obama had done that? If Obama or Joe Biden or Bill Clinton or any Democrat.
Had called up the electors for a state and said, find me votes. Just imagine the outrage. But you know, Trump does it, and yeah, you know, it's of course he's, you know, because we need to like take this country back or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 10. The fake elector scheme stink, the fake elector scheme. 11, January 6th, telling people, come to Washington, D.C., it will be wild.
Doing this whole big stop the steal rally after lying about winning the election for months and calling the Democrats, you know, crooks and they stole the election. And, you know, clearly it showed that we did not steal the election, but then he kept saying it, and then he called all his base to Washington, DC and said, you know, come to the stop the steal rally, even though nothing had been stolen, and it will be wild. And then he was like,
Go to the Capitol and you know, like he said this big fiery speech. And then people went to the Capitol and he sat there in his protected space and watched it. Did not call the National Guards or anything. And, you know, we saw what happened, you know, like people died. police officers ended up committing suicide because, you know, they were so traumatized. I I one of the police officers died of a heart attack the next day, and it was clearly a result of.
being attacked by a mob of crazy Trump supporters, breaking windows, smearing feces all over the wall, bringing box cutters and nooses and zip ties. And the thing I keep going back to, and this was not on my list, but it does it is something that makes me feel really friggin deranged when I think about it. What if they had found all the people that they showed up to find? What if they found Nancy Pelosi?
Or Mike Pence, or, you know, AOC or any of the other people that or Joe Biden, you know, what if they found these people? Would they have dragged them outside and ripped them limb from limb? I kind of think that's what they wanted to do. I think we would have seen people get executed on live TV. I honestly think that. And nobody talks about that because they showed up looking for people. And that was an angry mob and people did die. So if they had found some of the
Targets they're looking for, I think it would have been really ugly. But, anyways, that's another topic for another day. 12. Praising the January 6th defendants as heroes and political prisoners. Again, can you imagine if a bunch of black people, and you know, I say this as somebody with tons of with
Friends from across the color spectrum. I I I I see color because I think all the color is really beautiful, and I'm not ashamed to say that. I think we should all see the color and we should all celebrate it. But, anyways, that also is another topic for another day. can you imagine if people had shown up and Obama had whipped a crowd into a frenzy and they showed up with zip ties and nooses to, you know, attack the Capitol?
It would have been a much different scene. And I think all the Republicans, not every re a lot of Republicans were really disgusted by January 6th. To their credit, a lot of Republicans I talked to were like, yeah, that was really that was not good. I I do know actually many Republicans who actually agree with me that January 6th was fucking insane. But anyways, you know, like if if
Obama had done that or like anybody, anybody, actually, any Democrat. yeah. Republicans would not let it we'd be talking we'd be hearing them talk about it every day for the rest of our lives. But you know, Trump does it and it's like, you know, he's this fucking hero.
Anyways, thirteen, pardoning pretty much all the January sixth domestic terrorists, because th that's what I think they are. Pardoning them. And some of them some of them are like running for office now. And I think some of them are actually like they there's claims that some of them are working for ICE now, you know, like terrorizing American citizens.
14. The bizarre insistence that he somehow won states that clearly he didn't win. Fifteen, calling all elections rigged, that he doesn't like the outcomes of all of them. All of them. It doesn't matter if it's like a little local election, they're all rigged. 16, Sharpie Gate, you know, fucking up like an entire like hurricane path and you know, saying, well, this is actually where it's gonna go, and you know, like taking a Sharpie out.
17. being obsessed and lying about the crowd that was at his inauguration when we can clearly see that it wasn't nearly as big as he claimed it was. That happens with a lot of the stuff, like this American State Fair that he just had that was like a big train wreck, and him claiming the crowds were amazing. claiming that disinfectant and light are gonna somehow cure COVID. With with no
Proof at all. twenty, his entire no, nineteen, sorry, getting my numbers wrong. Nineteen, his entire handling of the COVID epidemic, you know, like politicizing it, not wearing a mask from day one, encouraging people not to wear masks, holding mask free, like celebrating like masks not required at my
political rallies, which why are you giving a political rally in the middle of a frigging pandemic? Why? Like is there a point to you doing this? where one Ben Carson died from COVID by going to that rally. You know? imagine if from day one of COVID he was like, this is incredibly what's the word? Contagious. And for elderly people
For people with compromised immune systems, for anybody who may be susceptible to any sort of like lung thing, or anybody who even healthy people. I had a perfectly healthy friend who wound up on an a ventilator and almost died. I actually know a bunch of people who died from COVID. but imagine if he actually said from day one that this is really serious, we all need to do the patriotic thing so we can protect our neighbors, we can protect
The elderly, we can protect all the people we claim to care about. We all need to wear masks. Me and Melania are gonna put on masks. you know, all my kids are gonna put on masks, my entire administration. We're all gonna wear masks. everybody should do this. This is the right thing to do for America. But no, he saw a way that he could politicize it and turn it into us versus them, mask wearers versus like anti vaxxers and like all this other stuff. And
He saw an opportunity to divide the country more because he knows that a divided country is a country that he can dominate because he can control the narrative because we're so busy fighting amongst each each other that he can, you know, work all his corrupt games and use our divisiveness to his advantage, which is exactly what he did during COVID. And it
lot of people ended up dying that probably didn't need to. I think he has a lot of blood on his hands, actually. twenty. claiming he was what does this say? Now I can't read my red. Claiming he has perfect memory while repeatedly mangling basic facts. Twenty one, his constant obsession with crowd size, twenty two, h his obsession with television ratings.
Twenty-three, his obsession with how many times his name appears in the news. Twenty-four, the White House reflecting pool, and literally arresting people that were just like touching the water and claiming that they vandalized it. We can all see that nobody vandalized it. I mean, it's it's perfectly obvious. His own like the people who worked for him, like Gene Pirot, said no, there's no evidence that it was vandalized. And then he's like, No, I still think it was vandalized. Like he just can't be wrong about anything.
ever. And it's you know, and I think the reflecting pool is it's just like a perfect symbol for just like how
How what a bad leader he is. You know, it takes guts to admit when you're wrong. Anyways, I'll get to that because that that's that's that's another one of my points. 25, attacking election officials. 26, attacking all his political opponents, 27, suggesting political violence against opponents and critics. Yeah, he does that. 28, calling his opponents opponents vermin.
29, talking about using government power against political enemies, and let's face it, he is using political power against his political enemies, which is very unconstitutional. thirty, the attempted dismantling of institutional norms. 31, the idea that presidential power should somehow extend to virtually anything the president wants to do, which is not a system of checks and balances, it's a fucking dictatorship.
32. Treating loyalty to Trump is more important than loyalty to the Constitution. Thirty-three, punishing Republicans who criticize him. 34. Demanding personal loyalty from anyone who works for him. Like nobody can even like disagree with him. Like everybody who is in his cabinet, like they they basically have to take a Trump loyalty test, which
I'm sorry, but like all these people, we pay their salary. Democrats pay their salary, Republicans pay their salary, independents pay their salary. Donald Trump does not pay their salary. The American people do, the taxpayers do. So those people should be taking a loyalty oath to American citizens, including liberals, including a gay liberal atheist like me. They work for me, not for Donald Trump. But in his mind,
Even all the people in him in his cabinet, they only work for him. And they only have to agree with him. And you guys, that's fucked up. That is fucked up on so many levels. And it's unhealthy and it's not sustainable. We can't have a sustainable democracy, you know, a a free and fair country, if that is how we treat the presidency, as like this loyalty oath to one person. It's just not gonna work.
35, developing his ice goon squads to terrorize US cities and pretty much just targeting cities he doesn't like. You know, thirty-seven, choosing cities that actually their crime rate was the crime rate was like lower than it had been. But then he's like, no, it's an epidemic and we need to send these goon squads in and you know terrorize people and terrorize anybody who, you know, disagrees with them and you know, entire neighborhoods.
thirty eight, you know, sending those ice goon squads in and you know using detaining methods and physical abuse things that are horrific to see and to hear about to hear about people dying in ice custody and then seeing you know these MAGA people online I don't know if they're trolls I hope they're trolls I hope they're bots actually I I really do because to think that an actual human pe being
could laugh about somebody dying in ice custody away from their loved ones. that's like a that's like a special brand of like
I don't know. It's it's fucking sick is what it is. But but I digress. where am I?
thirty nine, the emphasis on deportation as a political spectacle, because that's what this is. It's it's not about solving anything. It's like about proving some point which actually is hurting America because, you know, the the reality is immigrants actually help our economy. I mean we we I mean I could drag out a ton of different, you know, economists. I mean I don't have the budget to, but any economist will tell you that immigrants they help our economy. They don't hurt it, they help it.
ICE is actually costing us billions and billions of dollars that we could be using to give people, I don't know, health care, you know, access to higher education, you know, community building, you know, fixing, you know, infrastructure, you know, fixing our roads and bridges, you know, supporting our veterans. I mean, it it's crazy. billions and billions and billions of dollars. And it's all political theater. That's what it is.
It's political theater. forty the deaths of the protesters. I'll just use Renee Good and Alex Pretti. two beautiful people who, you know, were exercising their right as Americans to protest a corrupt government and to protect their fellow citizens, like the people in their neighborhood. They they cared about the people in their neighborhood. She was a mom. You know, she was a
A loving mom and and he was a what he's like a a a a a medic for vets. These are good people. You know, shooting her in the head three times and then calling her a bitch and laughing about it, and then leaving her body on the side of the road while they fled the scene. Or, you know, in Alex Predi's case, he was shielding a woman that Ice was terrorizing, and they shot him six six times?
s I think six times in the back when they already had him on the ground. He he there he posed no threat. He had never yes, he brought a gun there because, you know, it's like it was a legally obtained gun. He he didn't have it in his hand. I mean, he wasn't brandishing it. It was in his holster. But they still shot him. And then instead of, you know, feeling bad about it, they just they just like counted the bullet holes. And, you know, beautiful human being.
And
You know, the administration's reaction immediately without even knowing any of the facts, was to call him a dangerous gunman and an agitator and and also falsely claim that Renee Good had r tried to run over a an ICE agent. You know, what they don't talk about is the fact that she had a guy reaching in to her driver's seat and trying to pull her out and she was just trying to get away if I was a woman and some fucking
Douchebag was like reaching into the car and trying to pull me out of my car. Yeah, I would be trying to get away from him. You know, it's a knee-jerk reaction, you know? And it was the same guy that she had been, I think, saying something nice to, like, hey man, I'm not mad at you, or whatever she said. And then yeah, she was trying to get away. And so then they shot her three times in the head, and then they called her a fucking bitch.
forty two. Threatening or pursuing action against media organizations he d dislikes. That's fucked up. We have freedom of the press. You know, this isn't like they don't they don't exist just for him. forty three attacking universities. Forty four threatening federal funding as a means of political pressure. Forty five, using the machinery of the government against perceived enemies. Forty six, the constant rhetoric about
Enemies within forty seven threatening demonst threatening demonstration I'm sorry threatening demonstrators and saying that they're inherently threatening. you know, we we have the right to protest. And it's funny, the people who agree with them are all these don't tread on me people who, you know, like back when they started the Tea Party, back when they were, you know, talking about universal health care. you know, it was fine for them to protest.
But not anybody who protests against Trump. You know, then it's a problem. Then we're, you know, like threats for exercising our right to protest. 48. The sugg the suggestion that dissent is somehow disloyalty. 49. the normalization of political retaliation. 50. the constant testing of how much he can get away with. 51.
this revolving door of people that he brings into in his administration that are somehow benefiting from being in his administration. 52, the the tidal wave of conflict of interests, 53, hiring a fucking puppy killer. mm Christy Noam. 54. The Epstein Files. 55. The fact that he's a fucking convicted felon.
That a jury of his peers said that he did actually sexually sexually assault somebody and then he lied about it and then he defamed her. And then a jury of his peers said that he also lied about, you know, what he was using with the campaign funds to friggin, you know, pay off a porn star.
56. Multiple sex sexual assault charges, including rape. 57. Using the presidency as a personal piggy bank. 58. The obsession with monetizing his political movement. 59. The bizarre relationship between presidential powers and billionaires. 60, the whole dodge debacle, which
you know, is hasn't saved us any money. I think it's actually costing us money because some vital programs they just fucking cut. They used like search words to just like randomly cut programs. man, you guys, there's so many more. I there's literally like twenty more, but I think I'm gonna like stop here because I'm, you know, separate rules for billionaires, pardoning useful people.
Corruption is acceptable, the cruelty towards immigrants, the casual contempt of LGBTQ people calling neo-Nazis nice people, the attacks on trans people, the willingness to make vulnerable people political targets, the hostility towards environmental protection, the contempt for scientist scientific scientific expertise, the normalization of conspiracy theories, the willingness to lie about demonstrate demonstratable facts.
The celebration of ignorance as a virtue, the idea that being cruel is somehow a sign of strength, the idea that compassion is weak. the worship of wealth, the obsession with winning rather than solving problems, the complete inability to say I was wrong, the inability to say I'm sorry, the inability to say maybe the other side has a point, and finally, my last point. The fact that after all this,
And I'm leaving out a lot, like Russia, the Gulf of you know, like when he colluded with them, the Gulf of America, putting his ugly face on every fucking thing he sees, you know, putting his fucking name on the Kennedy Center. But after all this, I'm apparently supposed to be the one with a psychological disorder because I'm upset about it.
And so yeah, I am upset about it. All of it. All the bullshit I just listed. I'm fucking really upset about it. And I'm I think I'm I join a lot of other people in saying I'm fucking sick of it. And I I just, you know, we can't survive, you know, we can't survive like America cannot survive, you know, and have a prosperous future for all of us if this is what the presidency is gonna be moving forward.
You know, something has to change. So yeah, maybe I do have Trump derangement syndrome, and maybe I'm deranged, but if watching a president mock disabled people, demean women, attack democratic institutions, lie about elections, pardon political allies, scapegoat immigrants, and celebrate political violence doesn't bother me?
Then I don't want what the opposite of that is. I want it to bother me. I'm proud that it bothers me. It means my brain is working in the right way. And I don't want to live in a world where I'm so accustomed to cruelty that cruelty and corruption and lack of compassion stops shocking me. I want it to continue shocking me for the rest of my life.
So that is my little song and dance about why I'm proud to have Trump derangement syndrome.
Let's listen to some voicemails. Let's listen to some voicemails. yeah. And remember, you can call up and leave me a voice message. DanielCartier.com. And then you just hit the little button at the top, podcast voicemail. It's that easy. All right, let's see who called.
Well, yeah. Yeah, it is really screwed up. I think I just kind of like everything I just read, the whole thing about Trump derangement syndrome, I think it kinda speaks to everything you were talking about. That, you know, for a lot of people now politics is a religion. I mean, I actually view
The whole MAGA movement basically is a religion at this point. And, you know, Christian nationalism, yeah, I don't view that as Christianity. I mean, the thing is, you know, I talk a lot about my wonderful friends who happen to be Christian and they believe things that I don't believe, but they're also they share the same values as me. They they value compassion and kindness and empathy and grace and dignity, and they believe in the concept of helping others and of valuing everyone.
you know, who regardless of their race or religion or sexuality or gender or or their whatever path they choose in life, you know, their country of origin.
You know, those to me are real Christians. Now I may not believe in the same God they believe in. I don't believe in any God because I'm an atheist, but I can still respect the fact that they do believe in the God they believe in and love that they have that faith and not want to take it away from them. I don't want to take away anybody's faith. My problem is that when people have something that is like you said, it's so distorted. It's you know, like this this Christian nationalist MAGA.
anti-compassion, selfish really. It's glorifying greed and selfishness and justice. It's it's it's all it's all about punishment. Punishing the people we don't like, punishing the people that we think are bad for America, punishing the immigrants, punishing the people who didn't come here the right way, punishing, you know, the person who's not happy being, you know, the fact that they were born in the wrong body and they don't feel like the gender that, you know, when they look
at their body, like I don't my brain does not match what I see. I would rather, you know, live my life in a way that I'm comfortable with. And punishing those people, punishing anybody who, you know, dares to even speak up against their precious leader, which I don't think is Jesus. I think if Jesus came back, they would not even recognize him. They'd be like, who is this fucking woke hippie? Like that's what they would think about him.
You know, because he'd be marching over here with all the marginalized people. From what I know about him, he was actually a pretty cool guy. Yeah, no, I mean it's it's all about worshiping this this this this mindset. It's like a mindset. This toxically ma masculine macho.
Trad wife fucking mindset, which is it's really sad, and hopefully people are getting sick of it. I I'm hoping that the I'm my hope for the future is that it's gotten so obscene that the you know at some point the dam will break and some sort of light will flow in. Cause we need it. We need it, and we need and yeah, I agree. The truth is.
Is ugly a lot of times and I was talking about it at the beginning of this episode, you know. Yeah. The truth can be ugly, but sometimes, you know, we need to talk about things that are ugly. To admit, you know, just like reality can be really ugly, but we need to talk about it. Anyways, I'm glad you called. And I I liked your message, so let's see who else called.
Mm-hmm.
I think he got cut off. Well, that was actually my very dear friend Scott, who I've known for Scott, it's so nice to hear from you first of all. You know I love you. And so Scott, a little backstory is
I met him in sixth grade and we were the only like we were like there's just like a l handful of us who liked New Wave music. This is like way back in like nineteen eighty, nine nineteen eighty one. And so I kind of discovered New Wave with him and punk music and everything and
I would go over his house and w we actually had like a little band. Like I played a Casio keyboard and then he would like bang on a bunch of pots and pans and the name the name of our band was Modern Art. And so it was the first band I was ever in and
I don't know, I think we wanted to be like depeche mode or something, like very early Depeche Mode from like nineteen eighty one or like Yaz or OMD or something and or the Human League, you know. And so we were like trying to do music like that. but we were very passionate about it. We took it very seriously. and I have some of our music on cassette tapes and it's very poorly recorded. Like we would record, like we would play along on a cassette tape and then we would like
Play that cassette tape and then have another tet cassette tape and then we'd play more music and we'd like yeah, so it's like it's really tinny. Anyway, Scott, I love you. And you know, it's it's really nice to hear from you. And yeah, these flock cameras are really fucked up. it's scary because you know, it's getting to the point that there's not gonna be any place anybody can go for any privacy. Like, and the thing that's scary again, the don't tread on me crowd.
The crowd that doesn't want to be tread on. Don't tread on me. And yet I don't know if they even realize like how idiotic that sounds when you look at what they're happy to put up with. They're happy to put up with these like flock cameras and constant surveillance and you know monitoring the American people and you know the whole thing about like, you know, don't tread on me, but you know, it's like, how dare you protest anything? I mean
Yeah, it's like when you take away an American's right to protest or, you know, to you know, freely vote or to, you know, move around freely without, you know, feeling like you're just being like monitored everywhere you go and that, you know I mean, to me, it's it's Big Brother. I mean, that's what it is. It's just Big Brother. And so I I I don't know enough about the flock cameras to
I'm I'm probably gonna have to read up more on them. I mean, I've been I've been reading some some about them, but there's just so much going on right now that it's just like one more thing, you know. But yeah, I agree with you. It's really scary. And I love you and I miss you, and I hope we get to do some more music again at some point. I would fucking love to record some music with you. That would be so awesome. It'll happen. We'll make it happen. Some point.
let's see, who else called?
Tina, it is so nice to hear from you. my gosh, this is so nice. I I'm really loving all the people who called. Yeah, well I think that, you know, my attitude about it is that if you have a creative brain, you can't help but look at pretty much anything. It's a blessing and a curse, first of all. I I guess there are some people like who if they're creative they just do one thing. But
It I agree with you. It's been my experience that most of the creative people I know, they kind of their creativity stems from a fascination with things, the possibility of things. Because when I approach any sort of creative endeavor, what I'm saying is there's possibility here. There's possibility for something that hasn't existed to suddenly exist. And so I'm hearing
these sounds like what would happen if I mixed this electric guitar with this toy piano and this vintage drum machine and then like you know I I recorded myself ripping up paper and then I cut that up and and used it as like a made like some sort of loop out of it and then I sang. I you know so if I'm approaching materials because to me those are all just materials. They're they're audible materials but you know I I just I view them the same way I'd view paint.
You know, like what would happen if I took this paint and then I took all these old magazine, you know magazines I'm gonna cut up and I'm gonna do a collage, and then I took this, you know, I don't know, this this glitter, and then I took like this old wood or this, you know, discarded piece of plastic and then I mixed it together this way. Again, it's just materials and like what would happen if I assembled them in this way?
And in a weird way, like I I don't really see a separation between how I view music and how I assemble different to me it's paint, but it's just audible paint. and then with the the visual art, it's just music, it's just visual music, you know, like I know that sounds kind of weird, but the curse about it is that because we have these creative brains, we have these these things where we imagine things.
It can also go to the dark side because it's also been my experience that creative people have a tendency to t to catastrophize. I I know for me, I can take one little problem that I have, like one little fear, one little worry, like maybe it's a financial worry or or something like I'm worried that something that I did in the past might come back to haunt me in the future. And then my creative brain will start creating all these really
Insane circumstances. And and it I think it just happens naturally because I'm a creative person. I you know, I have so many unre I know Corey's the writer, but I have so many books in my head that I want to write. Like, you know, this and with plots all mapped out and everything. But the problem is I've like spread myself so thin that I just don't have any time. I've I think I've run out of time.
You know, and then I still gotta, you know, work my day jobs and everything, all my clients. go to my AA my my anonymous meetings.
And just make sure that my life is happening. but yeah, I think even from a a really young age, I I I remember thinking when I was like ten years old, you know, a a company if they were really smart, they could just give me a job. And my job would be I would just sit in a room and I would come up with ideas for them. Because it seemed like I was just like coming up with ideas all the time about everything for you know, like
food products or, you know, advertising things or whatever. It's like, you know, I think that if you're creative, you're creative. now there may be certain things that I, you know, I could like for instance, I don't know how to to weld. So I think if you gave me a bunch of metal right now and said, you know, weld something, it would look like a big hot mess. 'Cause I wouldn't know what I was doing. but do I wanna learn how to weld? Absa fucking. Like I I
Fucking I I really do. It's just another one of those things that I haven't gotten around to. So I think I think it's just how like a creative brain works. Is that we we'll just see the possibilities and everything. So yeah. Good or bad, that is how our brains work. And I loved hearing from you. It just made me so happy. It made me so happy to hear from somebody from New Hampshire. Two people because Scott lives in New Hampshire as well. I think he still does.
Two New Hampshire calls in a row. That's my home state and I miss it all the time. I love New Hampshire. let's see, who else? Who is this?
This this is like theater.
Don't want to wash your back.
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My goodness gracious. Okay. Well that was like dinner theater. I I I th I feel like I should be like eating something, like like at like watching a play. I think I know who that was. I th there was a woman I met at Nanacon that the the atheist slash humanist slash progressive Christian slash shh slash progressive people open mindedness
conference that I just went to a couple of weeks ago. and I met this woman right before I left and my friend said, she's probably gonna leave you some wacky messages. I think that was her. Anyways, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Granny. I I I don't wanna come and wash your back, but
But it was nice hearing from ya. I I was nice hearing from ya.
Please call back and let me know if the nurses start treating you better. let's see, who else? Uh-oh. You guys, look who it is.
Pourquoi pourquoi? Why do we make the art? Why do we make the music? Well, I think it goes back to what Tina you know, the question Tina asked is I think we're just creative people can't help it. We just gotta do what we do. I know for me, I'd love to have like some really deep, meaningful Well I guess this is this is deep and meaningful.
I I have to make my music because if I don't, I will literally go fucking crazy because it'll still be there. My music will still be there in my head. And I know I've shared this with you before, and I'm just gonna use my music as an example. the main reason I make music isn't so that I can I I think when I was young,
and maybe even sometimes now I still have these little fantasies. But when I was young, it was gonna like make me a person. Like I was gonna, you know, it was gonna make me rich, it was gonna make me famous, I was gonna finally be somebody, but I was approaching it from I also didn't like myself. I mean, I had really low self-esteem. And so music was gonna fix me. Like success, if I became a successful musician, then like I would finally be acceptable. I would be enough for everybody. And I had to outgrow that.
I mean, that was something that it's taken me actually most of my life to outgrow that. And do I still have some glimmers of it? Yeah, I mean, I, you know, but honestly today, I can say that 99% of the reason I make music is because if I don't record these songs, they're just gonna be in my head and I'm gonna wanna hear them because at the end of the day, I'm I'm a music listener.
And so I wanna listen to music. And and I actually like I I I'm a tr I'm I'm I'm probably my biggest fan, and I know that may sound like I'm full of myself. I don't mean it in a I I mean it in a very like self loving way. I get to love my music today and I don't need to feel bad about that. Like I make music
Because I I wanna I I make music that I would wanna hear. So naturally I'm gonna like it, hopefully. I mean I don't like everything. I mean sometimes I'll record a song and be like, that was fucking stupid, but you know, but then I have songs like Hovering and Bliss and Avenue A and Stumbling Home and Help Me to Love Myself and
I don't know, even some of the cover songs that I've done by other people and I and I just love, you know, the way I interpreted them. You know, I I'm I'm a Daniel Cartier fan. Like I I enjoy his music. You know, he's he's got some pretty cool tunes and so you know, I'll hear something in my head, kinda like what I was saying before.
You know, like what would happen if like I sing sang this melody with this chord and then I put this piano part underneath it and then I took this drum loop or whatever. and I just I need to hear it. Like it's the curiosity killed the cat type of thing. Like I I need now that I am picturing it, I need to hear it.
You know, and if I don't hear it, I'm in I'm gonna feel incomplete. I'm gonna feel like I didn't hear something that I needed to hear. So I think for me it's just it's that artistic calling, you know. I think with you, I s I see you working so hard at your painting and you know, and people do appreciate it. I mean, people love your work and you you you get commissions and you get people I know it can be stressful, but you know, I've seen you have a lot of success with your art.
And it may not be, you know, like we may not be household names, and that's okay. The majority of the world, you know, is not a household name. Very few people get to that point. and so I know for me, especially as an atheist, you know, I don't believe that there's any sort of divine thing happening. I I think that, you know, shit just kind of happens. We increase the likelihood that shit will happen in our favor if we show up for life. It's you know, I it's it's very simplistic, but
But simple, simple is good sometimes. Simple philosophies sometimes are very good. So, you know, I increase the possibility of my music working out and and and having some success if I show up for it. So I just keep showing up for it. It's a it's you know, that is me showing faith in my music, you know.
You know, I so I I g I I guess I do work a program of faith. It may not be a religious program, but to me r music is kind of a religion. So, you know, I practice my faith by showing up for it. And, you know, recording music even if I don't have any guarantee that it'll ever get heard. And most of my music probably I'll die, you know, without it without anybody without hardly anybody hearing it, you know. Hopefully maybe one of my songs will break through and
you know, cause a little commotion somewhere. I would not complain, but you know, I can't really make that the the goal because, you know, that type of success, it's kinda like winning the lottery. A lot of dumb luck. I mean a lot of it's just like luck, like the right person hearing it at the right time. And, you know, so instead I might as well just try to enjoy the process. And, you know.
It's a one day at a time thing. Some days I get frustrated and I fall back into the mindset of like it's not happening. Then I gotta remind myself again that, well, just keep play making music anyways, because it's what you love to do. All right. Just a couple more here. I've been talking for ooh, fifty six minutes. Let's make it a c cool hour.
Well that was nice to hear. I I think I knew who that person is. I it says Jim. Hello, Jim. I think I know which Jim it is. and it is nice to hear your voice. you're a really wonderful person. And yes, it's nice to hear from you. And I'm glad you're gonna be listening to the podcast. it sounds like you had a little cricket friend hanging out with you. so please say hello to the cricket.
and I think hearing hearing a nice message from somebody in my past is just a nice way to end. I hope that this wasn't a negative episode. I d I don't want these to be negative episodes. And I actually did not get to all my voicemails. I w I wanted to keep this under an hour and we're just closing in on an hour right now. We're at fifty seven minutes. So I think this is a good st stopping point.
So, yeah, thank you for listening if you got this far. I would love to hear from you. Voice messages, voice messages, voice messages. DanielCartier.com, C-A-R-T-I-E-R.com. The little button at the top of the screen. Podcast voicemail. Alright, you guys. I love you. I hope you have a wonderful week. And you know, call up and
You know, one of the things you could do before I forget, if you do want to leave me a voice message, suggest some stuff for me to talk about. You know, I I would like to know, like maybe there's subjects you'd like me to cover. I'm here for it. Like, let me know. This is this is your podcast. I'm just kinda like blabbing away, but I wanna talk about stuff you guys want to hear about. So that would be a big help for me.
Alright you guys, love you all and I will talk to you later.